Seems there might be a jury-rigged 16-core/32-thread Ryzen CPU on its way soon

Big Ryzen CPU (artist's impression)

With the launch of AMD’s Ryzen you thought that might be an end to the rumour mill and the hype train, right? Oh, so very wrong. Fresh, salty rumours have been doing the rounds over the last 24 hours that AMD are set to launch their own super high-end PC platform.

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Just as Intel have their own server-based high-end desktop platform (HEDT) using the X99 platform (and upcoming X299) motherboards and LGA 2011 socket, the rumours from Chiphell and Canard PC Hardware are suggesting AMD are set to follow suit. The reports claim there is a 16-core/32-thread Ryzen chip that’s set to drop, along with a whole new AMD platform, in around four to six months time.

Chiphell though is suggesting it will be announced around Computex in May/June. Intel are expected to release their own new HEDT platform for the Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X chips around August, which would put the two head-to-head.

Interestingly the rumours have also pegged the new platform as being called the X399. The upcoming new Intel platform uses the same 200-series naming scheme they've used with Kaby Lake for its boards, but as they’re only going to be called X299 that means AMD’s new setup will be exactly 100 better. Sounds like someone’s trolling Intel...

From what Canard PC Hardware have said it will support quad-channel DDR4 and that the new 16-core chip will actually be twin 8-core CPU dies jammed into the same package. They’re also suggesting AMD will go for a land grid array (LGA) rather than their more familiar pin grid array (PGA) design for this mammoth processor. 

And it does sound big - the Chiphell forum post says it’s twice the size of Intel’s current Broadwell-E processors.

What would you pay for a 16-core/32-thread CPU? According to the rumours it will only be twice the price of a Ryzen 7 1800X at $1,000. Six more cores than Intel’s Core i7 6950X but for a lot less cash and with presumably much greater multi-threaded chops.

To be honest it all sounds rather insane, especially considering this is the first that it’s being mentioned at all. I’d be impressed if AMD were able to keep such a platform entirely secret for this long, but stranger things have happened. It seems particularly odd given that AMD have made such a lot of noise about unifying their desktop CPU platforms around the AM4 socket. They’ve also mentioned that if you buy an AM4 board you’ll be future-proofing yourself against the next few iterations of AMD CPU or APU design in every Ryzen briefing I’ve been at.

And yet just a few months later we’re seemingly going to be told that actually if you want the next big Ryzen thing you’ll need to invest in a whole new PC platform again. I’m really struggling with credulity here but we are indeed living in strange times.

Via Digiworthy.

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Belimawr Avatar
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3 Months ago

why would you want to pay for this?

most games cap out on performance on a quad core chip, so for gaming this will offer nothing over the lesser chips. I've never got AMD's obsession with needing to have more cores, if they spent the money on trying to get more cores on core architecture they would be a lot stronger on core to core comparisons instead of often relying on heavily threaded programs and bench tests to outshine the competition.

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Dionm Avatar
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3 Months ago

To be fair, having physical cores always trumps "virtual" ones.

Not to mention, you may be streaming a livestream while capturing locally or some other task in the background.

Multitasking instead of just Multithreading!

Workstation builds might appreciate the horsepower that the chips provide for video encoding for multiple concurrent jobs (There will be a point where its diminishing returns for CPU x Job)

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Dave James Avatar
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3 Months ago

At a guess I'd say it's probably a simpler problem working out how to jam more cores onto a die than to get one up to the single-threaded throughput of Intel's.

AMD are operating with a tenth of the R&D budget of Intel, so I still kinda think the CPU and GPU tech they do put out is seriously impressive in that context.

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Xsjado Koncept Avatar
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3 Months ago

This isn't a gaming chip, this is a workstation chip.

Once I get it under phase change cooling I can game with it just fine, but I won't be buying it for that purpose, I'll be buying it for development work.

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Mike the Meek Avatar
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3 Months ago

Article headline is currently "Seems there might be a jury-rigged 16-core/32-thread Ryzen CPU on its way soon".

It's "jerry-rigged" (improvised) not "jury-rigged" (jury coerced into a decision).

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Ben Barrett Avatar
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2 Months ago

Hmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rigging

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