Hearthstone Arena overlay: Blizzard say "we can’t condone or approve of their use"

With the announcement that popular fansite HearthArena would be making an overlay to help you pick cards, I asked you wonderful readers if you thought it was an okay thing in this week's Topic of the Week. I also reached out to Blizzard with a laundry list of questions about how they would be responding to the tool, and their policy on things like it. They've now got back to us, though with apologies that they can't answer questions of that sort at this time. They did, however, provide this statement:

"Like any third party programs for Hearthstone, we can’t condone or approve of their use. Our Terms of Use don’t allow changing game files or automating game play."

Obviously the latter is where the HearthArena overlay may be crossing the line. While it doesn't automatically take the best card for each pick, that is inevitably how a large portion of its install base will use it. Unlike a deck guide or a best cards list, its immediate presence on top of the client - almost making it a part of the program itself - moves it closer to the problem pile. Whether either of those points of semantics will prove significant remains to be seen.

Clearly this isn't a committment by Blizzard to stop the tool from being released, which has been delayed from today until at least Monday, but it's not what the developers of the tool will have wanted to see. They've put a great amount of effort and work into what would be a very useful thing for a huge number of players. I'm very tempted to use it myself and will almost certainly give it a shot upon release to see just how off the mark my personal ratings are - but it's very close to the line of what is deemed okay by Blizzard and the community alike.

We'll hopefully get more answers from Blizzard about this in the near future, or at Blizzcon at the start of November, where we'll be bringing you all the latest info on what's coming next from the company.

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Htorne Avatar
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1 Year ago

Thanks for the follow up

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「Spaerk」 Avatar
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1 Year ago

I would say that as long as its only displaying information for steps where you would have unlimited time to make your decision, its still acceptable. In that case it just provides extra convenience and you don't get any information you wouldn't have definitely gotten in time, anyway.

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1 Year ago

It's just like the radar in diablo 3, blizzard never gives a real answer so of course a lot of people are using it. As with hearthstone I honestly do not see a problem, it's a site that allows you to build your arena deck if I'm not mistaken. Wouldn't this be something to be encouraged since it allows better quality of the games in the arena. Otherwise you'd have people picking 4 wisps thinking they were good.

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1 Year ago

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know of any digital TCGs where something like Arena is the main focus, or rather, easier to get into? I played Solforge for a while and I played their draft mode which is fun, and I tried out Hearthstone and played a round of Arena, and it was fun... But I can't stand the 'grind' that each requires to be able to do it.

Pretty much you get to do one round a week in each game. I enjoy how random the game can be when you build with random cards, and I don't particularly enjoy constructed much since you can run into people with awesome cards that you just don't have because either you don't play much, don't pay much, or just didn't get lucky on the pack open.

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Flappers Avatar
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1 Year ago

I don't play it myself, but I've heard good things about Duel of Champions. They have an arena mode/ tournament mode and basically a lot of features that people want in Hearthstone.

Personally, I'm not that great at card games. Hearthstone was the easiest one to get into, so I just play it at work, as it's simple and quick.

But you should try checking out that Duel of Champions game. Unfortunately it does come with the publisher of Ubisoft, but from my understanding, uplay is not required, which is a bonus.

A work colleague of mine can't get enough of that game

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JCalton Avatar
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1 Year ago

Infinity Wars can be fun, it's free and on Steam.

It's OP, as in every faction. But it's okay because they ALL are.

Daily login (but no need to necessarily play) is a must as the rewards are decent.

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1 Year ago

From what I've read and seen, Heartharena uses the log files to determine what cards are on the screen.

I don't think it changes anything here. It's just reading a file, so in essence I don't believe that Blizzard can really do anything about this.

Well, they could just say no... I mean, it's their game after all. But what they are doing here, is just making it easier for the players to use an external site...

I used this heartharena once. For me, it kinda ruins the fun of Arena. I'm personally terrible at arena (actually just terrible at the game in general, last season I could only get to rank 10 - at which point I'm facing up against net decks which are not fun).

But people will go and do what's necessary to win. Even if it means stripping the fun out of building your own deck, or experimenting with something new.

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1 Year ago

I pretty much play arena exclusively these days, I'm running into Net Decks from rank 20 onwards and it's just a miserable slog.

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Naso Avatar
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1 Year ago

They can say no, but this doesn't automate it anymore than just manually typing the cards into there site. It doesn't modify the client either, it just reads the log file.

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