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Intel Core i3 8300 rumour

According to a screenshot posted on a Chinese forum (if those alarm bells aren’t clanging like a frickin’ church wedding already, there’s something wrong with you) Intel are going to be releasing a 4GHz Core i3 CPU in the 8th Gen range which comes with four HyperThreaded cores spitting out eight threads.

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There isn’t enough salt in Utah to deal with this new Intel Coffee Lake rumour, but I kinda still feel it’s worth sharing for the sheer ‘WTF?’ nature of it. I mean, realistically, if this is true, and Intel decide to let a Core i3 commit fratricide on the touted six-core Coffee Lake Core i5, then Chipzilla will have truly lost the plot.

Intel Core i3 8300

With eight threads running at 4GHz that would almost put it on par with a current-gen i7 from the Kaby Lake range. And that, in turn, would put it above the non-HyperThreaded six-core Coffee Lake CPU, which is supposedly only going to be capable of Turbo-ing to 3.4GHz.

I know they might be starting to feel like they need to compete with a resurgent AMD’s processing division, especially after the Ryzen 3 1300X seems to have nailed the budget end, but this is really not the way to go about it. I told you they can’t remember how to deal with this stuff anymore.

Intel Core i3 8300 threads

This touted Core i3 8300 would see Intel essentially doubling the amount of silicon they dropped into the Core i3 7300, which has two cores and four threads, and operates at a base 4GHz. They'll also be doubling the cache count too, which is to be expected with another two cores in the package.

But hey, if they stick to the same $140 price tag we’ll have a winning budget CPU on our hands and we don’t need to worry about anything above this in the CPU hierarchy until we get to the Ryzen 5 1600X. Which is great for us, even if it does entirely cannibalise the rest of the Intel CPU market....

Though, if this isn't some mocked-up faux pic, I honestly have no clue what the tech world is up to anymore.

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4 Months ago

Pointless speculation until we know the final clock speeds on the hex-cores.

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JMaster299 Avatar
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4 Months ago

I hate sites that spread lies. The 8600K does not top out at 3.4GHz like you claim in your article. It's base clock STARTS at 3.6GHz and boosts to 4.3GHz single core and 4.1GHz on all cores. Which means it has higher out of the box clock speeds than the 8300.

And, being a K branded sku, people will be able to clock it higher than that. While that 8300, even with it's higher logical core count, will be locked to just 4Ghz. And as any reviewer worth their paycheck would know, single core performance is still king when it comes to gaming.

It's why the 7600K and even older i5 chips can beat so many of the different Ryzen chips in different gaming benchmarks. With 6 physical cores that both have a higher boost clock out of the box and can be overclocked higher by the user, the 8600K will easily outperform the 8300.

Especially when other factors are taken into account as far as whatever Intel does to the chip to ensure it performs behind the more expensive chips in the stack. Such as smaller L2 and L3 cache sizes. The 8300 will definitely be a step in the right direction, a step they likely never would have taken without Ryzen on the market, but there are numerous sources confirming it's 4c/8t existence, but the 8600K will still outperform it.

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4 Months ago

The early rumours pegged the 8600K at just 3.4GHz Boost. It wasn't a case of lying, it was an opinion based on what was expected at the time of writing.

At 4.1GHz all-core though it's six threads may still be slower than an i3 with all eight threads running at 4GHz in multi-threaded tasks.

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GTX Avatar
4 Months ago

"Intel decide to let a Core i3 commit fratricide on the touted six-core Coffee Lake Core i5" They released a 50% cheaper CPU and that has same performance as the i3 Skylake Refresh and yet you think that the cpu with 50% core will have something to compete with an i3 with HT?

I can see this like a huge bias toward AMD thining intel can deliver competition for the Ryzen cpu with 4C+Multithread

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4 Months ago

The person who wrote this article doesn't even get their facts straight. Clock speeds on the 8600K are 3.6GHz base, 4.3GHz single core, 4.2GHz 2-4 core, 4.1GHz all cores. NOT the 3.4GHz max boost clock that the author claims in the article.

Even the non K sku i5 has a higher clock speed than what the author tries to claim, so it's not like they can pretend they were referring to the non K i5. That chip, the i5 8400, has a boost clock of 4.0GHz single core and 3.8GHz on all cores.

But with the larger Cache sizes and the more physical cores instead of logical cores, that i5 8400 should still out perform the 8300 in more scenarios. Or at the very least trade blows. But the two chips will be priced very close to each other. With the 8600K supposedly being priced at the same $249 as the 7600K, the 8400 should be around $199.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/intel-skylake-kaby-lake-coffee-lake-thread-coffee-lake-s-specs-out-page-554.2428363/page-554#post-39005848

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