Pachter DID call PC gamers “arrogant twits”, Daily Star releases audio from interview

Michael Pachter

Updated story, September 22 2016: In response to our statement from Michael Pachter last night where he claimed to have never called PC gamers “arrogant twits”, the paper he was quoted by - British outfit the Daily Star - has updated its original story with audio taken directly from the interview.

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In the short clip we hear the interviewer, James Wright, ask industry analyst Pachter whether he thinks Sony’s PS4 Pro unveiling will convince PC gamers to pick up the console, given its boosted power over the original PS4. 

Pachter’s response is fairly stark. As he’s previously admitted, he did indeed compare PC gamers to “racists” - something, if you scroll down to the original story, you’ll see he regrets doing - but, more interestingly, he also clearly labels them as “arrogant twits”.

When we caught up with Pachter yesterday, he disputed this part of the interview and suggested he doesn’t even know what the word twit means. I have to say, the audio suggests otherwise.

Having spoken to the man who conducted the interview, the Daily Star’s James Wright, the 37 second long audio clip taken from his encounter with Pachter is itself unedited. However, it's snipped from a much larger stretch of audio (on a wide variety of subjects) currently under wraps for use in future articles.

Wright also contests the suggestion he hounded Pachter into saying something inflamatory about PC gamers, noting that it was the first question in the entire interview to make reference to whether PC gamers might be tempted by PS4 Pro. 

In Pachter’s response to us last night, he suggested comparing PC gamers to racists came as a result of repeated questioning on the issue by the journalist, resulting in his rather provocative remarks. If the paper is to be believed, however, this appears not to be true.

The full transcript from the clip is as follows:

James Wright: Do you think for those gamers who are maybe more traditionally PC who have seen the announcements might be more inclined to maybe go for that? And fork out for those kind of...

Michael Pachter: [interrupting] I think PC gamers are like racists, you know, where they only like their own kind and they have no interest in venturing out and dealing with, you know, mixing with other races, so no I don’t think so. I think PC gamers are arrogant twits who are convinced what they do is better what anyone else could possibly do. No, I don’t think so.

Original story, September 21 2016: Beware a journalist with copy to fill and no time to spare. You can talk to them for hours on end, but they’ll always lead on the ten second slip in the middle of an interview where you said something you probably shouldn’t. Apart from me. I’m lovely.

That’s exactly what industry analyst Michael Pachter claims happened during an interview with the Daily Star carried out at Sony’s big PS4 Pro reveal in New York earlier this month. 

There are two interesting quotes attributed to Pachter in the piece; firstly that he compared PC gamers to racists, and secondly that he described them as “arrogant twits”. 

“I think PC Gamers are like racists; they only like their own kind and they have no interest in venturing out and mixing with other races,” Pachter is quoted as saying by the paper. “PC gamers are arrogant twits who are convinced what they do is better than what anybody else can possibly do.”

The article quickly found its way to NeoGAF where his comments were roundly criticised, before Pachter himself stepped in to claim he’d been misquoted. We made contact with the man himself for a clarification and he kindly replied, stating he was coaxed into making more and more inflammatory statements.

“The question I was asked was whether PC gamers would buy the PS4 Pro. In a ten minute interview, I said ‘no’, as I didn’t think that the PS4 Pro represented enough of an upgrade to induce PC gamers to switch over,” Pachter told us. 

“When asked to elaborate, I said that PC gamers prefer the control scheme of keyboard and mouse, generally have faster CPUs, and that most have far more powerful GPUs. When pressed as to ‘why’ I thought that PC gamers wouldn’t at least give the PS4 Pro a shot, I said that I thought that PC gamers were loyal to the PC and weren’t looking to switch. I used terms like ‘insular’, made analogies to political parties, to religion, to nationality. 

“When pressed further, I am sure that I said ‘like racists’. It was a poor analogy, but the reporter apparently didn’t think that anything else I had to say was print-worthy.”

More interestingly, Pachter told us the claim he called PC gamers “twits” is simply not true. “I have never used the word twit. It’s not in my vocabulary," he clarified. “I am sure that I somehow said ‘arrogant’, but ‘twit’ is just a word I wouldn’t use. I’m not altogether sure what it means, for what it’s worth.

“The reporter recorded what I said, although we were at the PlayStation event, and it was noisy. Whatever word I used must have sounded like 'twit' to him. I honestly don’t remember what I said, it was exactly two weeks ago, and wasn’t important enough for me to have written down my recollection at the time.”

Pachter goes on to confirm he definitely used the word “racist”, and describes it as an “unfortunate choice.” He also adds that anyone who has watched any of his Pachter Factor videos where he routinely chats about the video games industry will know him as an “articulate and definitely affable” fellow.  

“I don’t think that all people who play PC games can be generalized into any category other than PC owners, so if you’re going to write something, please include my apology for offending anyone,” he concludes. “I’m a big boy, and will live with my bad choice of words.”

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Keith Andrew avatar0V3RKILL avatarbrmorgen82 avatarhuldu avatarAever avatarKinth! avatar+6
MrJinxed Avatar
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7 Months ago

Pachter is a joke. 99% of his predictions doesn't come true. Why anyone put any credence in what he says is beyond me.

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Kinth! Avatar
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7 Months ago

Like a racist Pachter has assumed that all people in an associated group are the same. He thinks PC gamers are the same. He seems to think we are all like the morons over at PC master race.

My preferred control scheme is not KB/M, I will use a controller in most games. I am not averse to consoles either.

Why will I not be getting a PS4 pro? For the same reason a lot of console gamers have said they had no interest in it. They are focused on this pseudo 4K that isn't really 4K so it pointless. It's Sony just trying to mislead people all over again like all the nonsense with GDDR5. If all developers are going to do with the Pro is pseudo 4K then why would I buy into it. If they used it to make their games 1080/60 then I would be interested.

Uncharted 4 and Horizon at 1080/60? Sign me the fuck up. However, seeing how the PS4 struggled to do a PS3 game at 1080/60 I doubt the Pro is actually capable of 1080/60. Which is why they are now focuses on "4K".

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0V3RKILL Avatar
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7 Months ago

pc is better and we cant help tell people about our experience. Especially when we see a console gamer saying their console is better when it's not even close to the facts. We got to educate them and doing so in the process many console gamers have made the switch over to pc. PC gaming has never been better and it's getting better every year. Hate all you want

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Keith Andrew Avatar
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7 Months ago

I'm going to play "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing" while reading this message out loud, over and over.

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huldu Avatar
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7 Months ago

So it's basically like vegans trying to force their way of life onto you? PC gaming has been a lot better than it currently is. The mere existence of consoles is bad for PC because the developers will aim for the consoles when creating games rather than the PC. You sell more games on consoles than you do on the PC, it's just a simple business choice. We might be at the turning point in a few years where finally the PC will outdo the consoles. But until then we get terrible PC ports with games clearly made for consoles and not a PC.

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0V3RKILL Avatar
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7 Months ago

I see it more like vegans are the console gamers and meat eaters are the pc gamers, but what ever. ANyway, Telling someone about your experience is not forcing your believes. It's call having a conversation. Now about the pc world being better in the past...hmm. I'm 39 years old and I do not remember a time where pc had the technology we have today. Now, the reason you see a lot of tittles badly ported is a good thing. At least they are porting it. I remember a time when pc would not get it at all. It will get better.

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huldu Avatar
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7 Months ago

Well, you could argue that the PC doesn't have the technology it'll have 10 years from now today. Ah yes, the days of the Amiga CD32, one of those consoles where they actually ported PC games over to it. Yeah, it's just as bad as you'd imagine it to be. Creating bad PC ports is a terrible thing and is not something that should ever be accepted. It's quite common which is the worst part.

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0V3RKILL Avatar
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0V3RKILL replied to huldu
7 Months ago

I hear you. there should not be any bad ports at all and it is going to take some time. But I rather have a slightly bad ported game than nothing at all. But you are right its not excusable. We want more than that and we will get it eventually.

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Premchand Avatar
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7 Months ago

So he did say it lol... why lie ? surely he knew he was being recorded. I guess when you say so much bs its hard to keep track of what you said...

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ajt09 Avatar
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7 Months ago

I've had a console. I've got a PC. There is no goddam master race. There's arrogant morons on both sides, people who think they're far superior to everyone else because of a piece of plastic that provides them with pixel enjoyment on a tv screen/monitor. Get over yourselves-you give both sides a bad name with your moronic epeen BS. Consoles have advantages over PC for some things and vice versa. Just get over your selves ffs. Makes me cringe (Not everyone has this mindset-but it's clear some do so I'm not tarring everyone with the same brush).

But OT, Pachter; you're just a dumb **** simple as with a narrow minded mindset, which is similar to the aforementioned epeen stroking "master race" fools.

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Lolssi Avatar
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7 Months ago

Don't know who he is.

Didn't hurt my feelings.

Is he right? Propably.

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Achtung Englander Avatar
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7 Months ago

Calling PC gamers arrogant to a certain extent is correct. The fact is the console brethren will always be the younger brother to the PC as a gaming system due to simple physics. PC gamers can upscale their graphics cards and CPU to the fastest and latest tech at any time, while the console system spec is frozen at a particular time.

The idea that the PS4 Pro will "take on" the PC is a ridiculous argument because you are talking about one tech that cannot be upgraded at whim to one that can. So...er...yeah - dumb !

The arrogance will come from knowing you can upgrade at any time and not be limited to when the console manufacturer decides to release a new system.

Also PC games have mods and a better control system for most games (not all !)

Anyway I am too long in the tooth to even argue this bullshit. This kind of argument that PC > Console is just as boring than Apple > Windows. Both are just as good as each other. I am a PC gamer but I also love playing games on my PS3 and XBO. Provided you are having fun - who cares which system is better.

I have met Pachter several times. He is actually a very nice, approachable guy. I think the whole "racist" comment is a little out of context if you listen to what he meant by it. As to regards his predictions, yes he got a lot wrong, but trying to predict what will happen in this industry and be right all the time is near on impossible.

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brmorgen82 Avatar
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7 Months ago

“I think PC Gamers are like racists; they only like there own kind and they have no interest in venturing out and mixing with other races,” Pachter is quoted as saying by the paper. “PC gamers are arrogant twits who are convinced what they do is better than what anybody else can possibly do.”

This is an accurate statement.

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Aever Avatar
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7 Months ago

Apart from the "twats" part, yes it is. However, expressing this the way he did is at the very least a sign of ignorance, if not outright complete lack of understanding about how the PC and consoles interact with each other.

So, yes, we are arrogant and yes, we have no desire to mix with the console "ecosystem". Why? Because we fucking get burned most often than not. Poor ports, subpar experience, crap controls, poor UI for mouse/keyboard, game design with the controller in mind, delayed releases, exclusivities, lack of mod support, lack of choice when it comes to hardware ... and the list goes on and on.

So why exactly should we want to have anything to do with consoles when there isn't a single thing they do better than a PC? So they can take the choices away from us? So they can milk us for more money? No, fuck off. We use the better platform and we have the right to ./sigh when we hear about another game we care about being dragged down for compatibility sake.

Bottom line, all I want is good games, running well on my machine.

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Chaz Avatar
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7 Months ago

You're obviously going to be downvoted to hell, which is already happening, but yeah. Remember that the PC gaming community actually took the "Master Race" meme seriously and many think it's still complimentary.

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