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AMD Vega - release date, price, specs, and performanceAMD Vega - release date, price, specs, and performance
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did you seriously state "WFCCTECH as from the always trustworthy" LMAO, even a blind squirrel can manage to get a few nuts now and then, I would not trust one to feed me however.Reply
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Hehe, no it really wasn't serious. Was hoping folk might sense the sarcasm there ;)

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AMD's Radeon RX 580 and RX 570 cards are here - higher clocks and not much moreAMD's Radeon RX 580 and RX 570 cards are here - higher clocks and not much more
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With this round of GPU, CPU releases, AMD makes anything slower or equivalent irrelevant.

The RX 480 is really cheap and the 1060 3 gig is not even a contender. The 1060 6 gig is better contender but short 2 gigabytes of vram. Plus no SLI on 160. In all honesty the RX 480 is winner in features/price/performance (crossfire).

AMD is performing similar to the core i5 with its latest CPU's. Except you can get hyperthreading and more cores in AMD flavour. AMD is not cheaper yet but with the Ryzen 5 series it might be a real contender with core i5 in price/performance/features.

I wouldnt doubt that the RX 580 can crossfire with the RX 480 if they as similar as the rumors show it to be. (just like 280x and7970). But wait and see.
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280x is a 100% rebranded 7970 GHe, same shader, tmu, rops clocks etc from a factory clocked standpoint, if rumors are "true" RX 580 might share the basic building blocks in same shader/rop/tmu so in theory should be able to crossfire with RX 480, but, if the 580 is faster clock speeds that means it will have to downclock OR the 480 would have to clock up, not sure how this works, but the dream of being able to CF 580 with 480 might not happen..cant be sure on this however, I know AMD in the past was much more open for crossfire between different cards of same generation and/or mixing generations if one wanted to do such...I wish they had a solid reference blower cooler on there using more heatpipes instead of just as basic as it can get, can it be that hard to make stock blower style with a flip out/over portion so can easily keep it clean? That would be one thing would set them far above any other design really :)

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AMD's Radeon RX 580 and RX 570 cards are here - higher clocks and not much moreAMD's Radeon RX 580 and RX 570 cards are here - higher clocks and not much more
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Rock1 and this article, there is a massive difference between rebrands as this and other sites are alluding to, and an optimized version using higher speeds and lower power as well as supposedly targeting and even lower pricepoint for the RX 580-570-560 models, you do not want to buy it, then do not, at least AMD builds their products very well using high quality components compared to some other company more interested in buying reviewers opinions and hiding truthful numbers.

Just saying, just as a base example, a pure rebrand would be like the Radeon HD 8000 series which is a TRUE(albeit OEM only) of the 7000 series that were built very well with high quality components and verifiable quality, compared to say Nv and their 8000 series becoming a massive chunk rebranded with all the same quality control KNOWN problems as the 9000 series they did not care much if they had 10s of thousands of in field failures or more OEM or consumer purchases, cause they make $$$$$$$$ so can keep pushing BS quality into the open market.

So, even if it were and is not going to be a pure rebrand(i.e same clock speeds, memory amounts, TMU/ROP, wattage, TDP etc) that is ok, cause they will be put on the shelf at a better pricing, but everything I have heard so far states in fact, nope, they are an optimized version featuring higher clock speeds, less wattage(and therefore even better temperatures which the RX 400 series is actually quite good with)

So anyways, does it matter really if it is or is not a true rebrand, nope, you buy it, or you do not, nuff said, guess you can just go on supporting a corrupt Nv bs buy reviewers and tilt numbers in their favor instead of saying the truth as it really is(such as Pascal is NOT any better then Maxwell, they only ramped clock speeds and chopped other things away to make "appear" as more power efficient, when in fact, Polaris is more efficient in regards to actual power use for the work it can do, is more area dense when it comes to transistors, is capable of far more grunt when used to its fullest, built tougher, etc etc)

Am done, no point wasting more time on this, folks that see blue(Intel) or Green (Nv) as always the best answer (without knowing much of the true cost) will always find some of their kool-aid to drink even if it is laced with poison :)Reply
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Like I said in the piece, I was fully prepared for AMD to be dropping mildly-refreshed Polaris cards in to fill out the 500-series below the top-end Vega-powered cards, but it does have me a little worried if we're only going to get a likely low-volume, high-margin part sitting outside this new series of GPU instead of an actual range.


And realistically I can't see AMD releasing an RX 580 for less than the £200 you can pick up an 8GB RX 480 for right now.


As for the corruption claims, in all my time working in the industry I've not experienced anyone trying to buy/strong-arm reviews in the UK, though I obviously can't speak for your experiences.

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Latest RX Vega compute benchmarks put it almost 35% faster than GTX 1080Latest RX Vega compute benchmarks put it almost 35% faster than GTX 1080
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Probably an engineering test to see how well the GPU performs with older CPU and south bridge hardware. I doubt this is the actual real performance from the GPU itself. PCI-e 2.0 x16 is a decent jump from PCI-e 3.0 x16 in terms of bandwidth. I'd expect more test leakage like this with the newer hardware AMD is releasing at Computex for real testing purposes. For actual data, that is.

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you mean pci-e3.0 is a decent jump from pci-e 2.0 which it is technically though no single graphic card released sees more then at best ~3% gain using one over the other, which is more or less within margin of error or if put into a FPS number ~1FPS at most, SSD and the like which can actually hit pci-e very hard sees a very large gain on going pci-e 3.0 vs 2.0 graphics cards at this point and time do not, now, if your motherboard limits the amount of lanes to give for multiple graphics cards etc and limits to say x16-x8-x4 or even x8-x8 type thing then yes it will have an impact, but running a single card at x16 2.0 or x16 3.0 differences in given performance are negligible for more then one reason.

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