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The Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMDThe Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMD
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"Yeah right....and enjoy your low-end AMD rig."

Thats the sound of a angry Intel supporter. I remember when "Zen" was first announced Intel fanboys went crazy over how its nothing and all AMD fanboys will see. So to you sir I say. "Enjoy your low-end Intel rig in a few months" AMD is moving back in.

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That's the sound of an angry AMD supporter.

The last decade or so clearly speak against your idol.

At least Intel customers value performance [which is why we choose Intel in the first place] and competition [for which we thank AMD from time to time].

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AMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choiceAMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choice
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You can say what you want but AMD themselves have stated it is not for gaming, just for devs to test games out. Big difference. I'll take the companys word all day long over a article that is claiming a card is something its not.

Straight from the AMD site

(Be the Pioneer in Game Development


The Radeon™ Vega Frontier Edition graphics card is designed to simplify and accelerate game creation by providing a single GPU that is optimized for every stage of this workflow, from asset production, to playtesting, to performance optimization.


When creating assets and working with game development tools, developers can take advantage of the professional application performance and rock-solid reliability of Radeon™ Pro Software to help ensure maximum stability and productivity when using tools like Autodesk® Maya®, Unity®, and Unreal® Engine.)

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I've never said the FE was designed specifically for gaming, but it isn't a straight workstation card either. It's using the exact same GPU core configuration and memory array as the top RX Vega gaming card will, even if it lacks the promised driver optimisations, therefore it is still an interesting representation of how the gaming Vega cards will eventually perform. Not 100% identical, as I say in the article, but a good preview of the architecture.


Also, in the little blurb you've quoted directly from AMD, they talk about using the FE for gaming performance optimisation. Wouldn't be much point recommending that usage case if the card wasn't in some way representative of final Vega gaming performance.

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AMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choiceAMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choice
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Even if it is much faster than Volta will be, I will still not even entertain the idea of obtaining it because Gsync is objectively better than Freesync.

Now way around that fact yet.
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Linustechtips did a review on G-Sync vs Freesync. The reviews came out pretty much dead even.

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AMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choiceAMD either made a mistake launching Vega’s Frontier Edition first... or they had no choice
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This article from the start looks like it was made with hate toward AMD. On top of that I just read a Workstation GPU being compared to a Gaming GPU that doesn't even make sense. I mean article after article from the time the Frontier has been announced has said "AMD themselves have clarified that the card is not designed for gamers " Next we are going to see server CPU's being bashed for not being =/= with Desktop Cpus in gaming. This article is a waste of time.Reply
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Except it's not really a workstation GPU is it? The FE is a pricey spin of the Vega GPU ostensibly for game/VR developers, it's even sporting a specific 'gaming mode'. The Radeon Pro WX 9100 sounds like it'll be the Vega workstation card, not the FE.


As to the hate, that is absolutely not true. I bare no animosity towards AMD, indeed I had previously praised their conduct around Vega. And, genuinely, the people I know at AMD are some of the nicest people around too - there's no hatred here.

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