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Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"
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The problem is that it'll also hit legit people who put their games up on bundles, so sites like bundlestar, humblebundle, and indiegala will get hit by this. Along with other resellers.

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No, it won't. It's targeting "devs" and russian bot farms, SidAlpha explains better than I can here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALgmOdX2iQE

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Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"
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Steam does not set enforce any pricing for any developer. End of story.


The price 'advice' they give is for territory-specific pricing where the cost of living is different, ergo, the price is usually less than in the west (or sometimes more in a few territories). The developer has to set the opening price though, and can individually amend all prices.


"Explain to me, if steam doesn't help set the prices, why games are cheaper outside the steam ecosystem pretty much always when we don't take discounts into account"


Platform holders are not legally allowed to set prices. Even so, knowing Steam, they would much rather have their prices in line with other channels.

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Let's not pretend you're a law professor who know these things, and everyone should then just shut up. End of story my ass.


Steam is almost always (or even flat out always) the most expensive retailer outside of sales.


But no, they don't have ANYTHING at all to do with pricing. You seem to have a reading problem. I wrote they offered "advice" in regards to prices, which is generally followed, since we use very uniform price points depending on game type, length, and popularity of franchise or developer/publisher.


Anyway, I'm sure a lot of good will come of reading your next law professor type comment which will again include an "end of story" type remark.

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Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"
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Explain to me, if steam doesn't help set the prices, why games are cheaper outside the steam ecosystem pretty much always when we don't take discounts into account. Steam takes their 30% for every purchase on the steam platform. They're just sour they won't rake in the few extra dollars because the developers offer keys outside of their ecosystem.


As far as I'm aware, steam sets an arbitrary price after making a contract with the developer or publisher. They can then sell as many copies as possible. However that's not 100% the case, as prices fluctuate, and discounts happen. For indie games, at least as far as I'm aware, steam offers "advice" for price points. Of course there's nothing stopping a developer ignoring that "advice", but if that was always the case, we wouldn't have so many uniform prices.

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Steam does not set enforce any pricing for any developer. End of story.


The price 'advice' they give is for territory-specific pricing where the cost of living is different, ergo, the price is usually less than in the west (or sometimes more in a few territories). The developer has to set the opening price though, and can individually amend all prices.


"Explain to me, if steam doesn't help set the prices, why games are cheaper outside the steam ecosystem pretty much always when we don't take discounts into account"


Platform holders are not legally allowed to set prices. Even so, knowing Steam, they would much rather have their prices in line with other channels.

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Anakhoresis responded to MrJinxed's comment in
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Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"Valve clarify that "It's completely ok for partners to sell their games on other sites"
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Well that's entirely stupid. If steam wants to sell the copies, they should have competitive prices instead of being so fucking expensive when there isn't a sale on. Bearing the cost my ass. They wanted to be that ecosystem everyone used, and they rake in billions and billions, yet they cry over small games. Well start being competitive then.Reply
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I'm pretty sure Steam doesn't set the prices? They just tell developers what their cut is and let the devs decide what they want to do.

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MrJinxed responded to NihlusGreen comment in
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Middle-earth: Shadow of War will have microtransactions but content will not be gatedMiddle-earth: Shadow of War will have microtransactions but content will not be gated
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Exactly! They can push the limits, then later when we have calmed down and forgotten (as per human nature), push the limits again.

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It's only a matter of time, yep. People get outraged, then used to things, and it becomes the new norm. Then companies push the limits again, and the cycle begins anew.

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Obsidian are attempting to build one of the great RPG cities in Pillars of Eternity IIObsidian are attempting to build one of the great RPG cities in Pillars of Eternity II
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How I wish they could have married PoE's combat system with Tyranna's Lore and story telling. That would have been one hell of a game, but sadly instead we have Pillars with a bad story and uninteresting lore, and Tyranna with an amazing story, and fantastic lore, yet horrible combat (which is a shame because the spell creation is an interesting aspect).


Maybe they'll figure it out one day.

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It's Obsidian though, so don't bet on it. :p

They practically always screw *something* up...

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Middle-earth: Shadow of War will have microtransactions but content will not be gatedMiddle-earth: Shadow of War will have microtransactions but content will not be gated
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I really hate that companies does this. It's a gateway to much shittier things down the road once we are fully used to this.Reply
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Exactly! They can push the limits, then later when we have calmed down and forgotten (as per human nature), push the limits again.

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MrJinxed commented on
3 Weeks ago
Bluehole say PUBG player banned for stream sniping was lobby hopping to try to secure killsBluehole say PUBG player banned for stream sniping was lobby hopping to try to secure kills
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That developer is full of shit. Banning someone because the streamer cried wolf is a terrible idea. Plus there's the fact that the streamer himself is a confirmed stream sniper. He admitted it in one of his own streams. Proof is on reddit in one of the big threads about it. So why won't he get the same treatment.
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MrJinxed commented on
3 Weeks ago
For Honor is getting dedicated serversFor Honor is getting dedicated servers
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This is such a shame they only came to this conclusion now. This game could have been something amazing, but the train has mostly left the station. People aren't going to go back to it and the hype train has long since left the station, so nobody will get hyped and talk about it to bring in the masses AGAIN, just because they came to their senses. It's such a damn shame, as the game is really cool.
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MrJinxed commented on
1 Month ago
Don't expect a sequel to Prey - Arkane are making an online game nextDon't expect a sequel to Prey - Arkane are making an online game next
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Good. Not every game needs a sequel. Some games are best left to be a one-hit wonder. This will give them time to come up with a new IP, and impress us all once again.
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